3.III.08 Devil's Advocate 9

February 25th, 2011, 12:01 am

Author Comments:

Gibson Twist, February 24th, 2011, 11:54 pm

Wuh oh.

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User Comments:

Skylan2021 (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 12:07 am

Whoa, Patrick really changed her tune quick. She went from all nonchalant and cool to totally flabbergasted. Love that word. Anyway, Patrick might be kinda changing his story a bit. Is he more pissed off that Andy and Mel are together, more pissed at the secret, or more pissed that everyone sided against him. Thing did not go his way at all.

ThePuck1 (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 12:39 am

Oh Patrick...
Yer gonna get your ass beat, and quick, if you aren't careful.

reverendjack, February 25th, 2011, 12:41 am

Don't worry, Wiley. They were holdin' you back anyway.

Freddyfrijolero (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 12:42 am

More than likely it's all three, and I think everyone agrees that after all this is over, Patrick will never speak to anyone of them ever again. Maybe he'll talk to Wiley every now and then but more as an acquaintance rather than a friend and band member.

Uncle Nutsy (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 1:02 am

well looks like Patrick's now a massive d-bag.

just takes a swipe at Michelle with that asshole remark out of nowhere for no reason whatsoever.

if he's trying to alienate everyone he knows, he's sure doing a fine job of it.

I wouldn't put it past Michelle to give him what he deserves: a well-placed punch in the face.

scribe_drizz, February 25th, 2011, 2:22 am

I hope Patrick does get a punch in the face. And I hope he runs home to Alexander for some more comfort. :3

yayness (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 2:24 am

The "thing Wiley did" that they mention in the prologue.

I think he is going to do it pretty soon.

Oh man Patrick you are good at alienating people these days. I think you've just lost the remaining audience as well...

H0lyhandgrenade, February 25th, 2011, 2:36 am

Ouch. Ooh. Um.

The_Hankerchief, February 25th, 2011, 3:23 am

Cue the concussions!

Master Morality (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 3:51 am

Man, she should smack that boy down.

darkamnios, February 25th, 2011, 5:48 am

@ Master Morality; I think she might. (Kinda hope she does) unless he poked her really REALLY in the "right" spot.

Indigo (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 7:03 am

Ouch, cliffhanger.
Patrick spent the entire time during his sister's previous relationship berating her and belittling her for her choices (even though he was right that Devon was a bad choice). So he's surprised and hurt and angry that she doesn't want him to berate and belittling her for another choice he disagrees with. She's right; he needs to grow up.

But taking a shot at Michelle over the stripper thing -- that crossed a line in a big way. Christo had no right to freak out over her choice, and Patrick has even less.

Both of these guys are so in love with their own egos that they think they're automatically entitled to know anything they want to know.

Patrick in particular needs a wake up call. But it's not gonna happen. He alienated his friends, so when Alexander screws him over, he's gonna have no safety net. And I am gonna have a hard time being sympathetic for him when he falls.

gun21, February 25th, 2011, 7:21 am


white4lima, February 25th, 2011, 7:28 am

I think that Patrick is reacting just as he should; it's no secret that he's a bit hypocritical when it comes to giving advice. But Andy and the guys have been "teaming up" on him ever since he started dating Alexander, at least from Patrick's perspective. For a guy whose mind is typically negative, having a friend come by and try to squish your positive can be really obnoxious, even if you are in the wrong.
I can think of like 3 different songs off the top of my head about situations exactly like this. I'm sure there are plenty more but I'm not well versed in music.

amiko_16, February 25th, 2011, 7:36 am

Take coverrrrrr D:

(Aw, poor Wiley)

SFC-Omicron, February 25th, 2011, 7:55 am

...Wow. That was uncalled for, and it deserves an "Oh, no, he di'n't!" followed by a z-snap.

Maritza (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 8:36 am

My memory is bad, but has Patrick come out of the closet to his parents? Like he's one to talk about LYING.

Michelle, don't punch him. Just call him out. He needs that from you... someone to call on his bs calmly, coldly, and devastatingly so.

Skylan2021 (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 8:59 am

I dont think staying in the closet to his parents is a fair comparison to make on the subject of lieing. Thats a completely different set of things to deal with.

Jeffko (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 9:47 am

Well, Patrick admitted that revealing his true sexual orientation to his folks could cut off the financial support he's getting from his dad. So, instead of being a man and supporting himself, family reactions be damned, he keeps up the charade.

His dad is his financial support and Alex is his emotional support. Both strike me as unhealthy influences to be leaning on, yet this is what Patrick's doing, all the while critisizing others for their own choices. There's a word for that, and that word is hypocrisy.

Vicki Soloniuk (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 10:19 am

Oh, Patrick
Oh, Patrick, I have been a fan of yours for so long but recently you have been getting out of hand. That was uncalled for. Michelle was trying to speak sense to you and she was not even offensive about it. Are you trying to push everyone away so you can wallow?

Vicki Soloniuk (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 10:21 am

And let me add
And, btw, Patrick, the other guys are "sticking with Andy" because you were rude with them, too. You are not the suffering saint you want to believe you are.

TCGC (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 11:08 am

Watching Wiley walk off like that made me sad. D:

ce (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 12:13 pm

Patrick hit Michelle where it would hurt the most. He'll be lucky if she just leaves him bleeding in the snow.

If she plots against him, he and Kara may end up in the same pyre.

In real life i've watched people i loved on both sides of an abusive relationship start destroying each other. Such an episode is now ongoing. People are complex and can't be dismissed as drunks, sluts, addicts, etc...

Los (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 12:38 pm

Dancing queen. Can you just be fair to us one more time and have her go all Slugger on his ass? Can't say when exactly it changed but I don't remember Patrick ever making me wish quite this much violence on him over his stupid snarky mouth.

xkrazydog, February 25th, 2011, 12:42 pm

Patrick. Shut up.

Nik (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 3:10 pm

@white4lima: It might be understandable, given his temperament, but that doesn't make it right or healthy. Also, it might eventually get someone pissed off enough to beat the crap out of him.

Maritza (Guest), February 25th, 2011, 5:03 pm

It's the same in the sense that it's "lying by omission". Indeed, Patrick's still in the closet with his parents, because Patrick's sexual orientation is none of his parent's business. Whoever his sister is sexing up is none of HIS.

He has this ludicruous idea that everyone involved should have run the idea of Andy/Melanie by him first and see if he was okay with it. He thinks everyone should have told him, but really? Like Melanie has to ask permission to hook up with someone. C'mon.

phllybeef, February 25th, 2011, 6:20 pm

Panel 4 (Wiley): Really worried about the kid walking away on his own there. Really, really worried.

I hate that I feel so invested in this comic's well-developed characters.

Guest, February 25th, 2011, 8:44 pm

Patrick crossd a line there. Several. And if Michelle doesn't do it herself, Christo should kick his teeth in for it.

sIck, February 25th, 2011, 9:51 pm

I officially can't sympathize with Patrick anymore.

And poor Wiley!! D: D: I wish I could scoop him up and hug him. <3

Tsuki (Guest), February 26th, 2011, 12:44 am

He'd deserve it.
I'm definitely seeing a punch to Patrick's jaw in the next page.

And if it doesn't happen, it totally should.

Fae (Guest), February 26th, 2011, 10:08 am

This scene really pushes the notion forward in my head that Patrick is very similar to an ex I've had, even appearance-wise until he cut his hair. I may not have been the beacon of righteousness and done things that people didn't always approve of, but when he was wrong and I tried to talk to him about it, everything wrong I ever did was shoved in my face in the most hurtful way possible.
I could see this going an opposite direction with Michelle than her punching him. I can see this being the "straw that broke the camel's back" or the break in the dam that releases the softer side in her where allt he hurt and anxiety over she and Christo has been locked away. It would be nice to see the softer side of Michelle and see that she can be hurt by words and maybe a tear from Stonewall-Michelle would get him to see that he is being a jackass.

D.Z. (Guest), February 26th, 2011, 12:00 pm

Patrick is now approaching Devon territory.

WHAT EVEN (Guest), February 26th, 2011, 12:18 pm

Oh no he did NOT!

desire26 (Guest), February 27th, 2011, 11:11 am

Honestly I'm more concerned about Wiley at this time. especially with the way he just left. :( actually scares me to read the rest of the comic....I'll keep reading anyway

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