4.14 Back in The Saddle 23

May 23rd, 2013, 12:01 am

User Comments:

Vicki (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 12:03 am

Oh, dear.
She may not think she is breaking up with him but I am thinking it is headed that way. Peter is certainly thinking deep and not necessarily happy thoughts.

Diana (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 12:20 am

All I can say is... STAY GOLD, PETER!

And sad faces because of the last panel. :(

Kantrip (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 12:57 am

I gotta respect Tara for being blunt and honest. Peter may feel hurt now but that honesty is much preferred than the alternative.

LittleBoyBlue (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 12:57 am

As I expected, the same deal as with Andy. He probably wanted to go steady too and she got suffocated. Nothing wrong with that lifestyle but poor Peter. We've all been there man. In a relationship somebody always loves one person more than the other. And in this case it's pretty noticeable.

portmaneau, May 23rd, 2013, 1:44 am

I think it is safe to speculate that this relationship will not last long, because Tara has already made her position clear.

cj95 (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 3:42 am


Nothing like it when the one you're with is keeping her options open.

TCGC (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 3:57 am

@Kantrip/@portmaneau: Am I missing something? >_> Why are you guys calling her Tara?

DemonicMRX11, May 23rd, 2013, 4:17 am

Chance for a LTR aaaaaaaaaand it's gone. I wanna feel a little worse for Peter, but he knew what he was getting into, or should've. Hopefully he can get passed this, whether he's with or without her.

Xinea, May 23rd, 2013, 6:30 am

I've been wanting to hug Peter for the last five or so pages.

Los (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 6:39 am

Ugh. Uncomfortably familiar position there. Hopefully ol Slugger has the sense to bail before he starts thinking he can "fix" that.

Jeffko, May 23rd, 2013, 8:03 am

@LittleBoyBlue: Or maybe Kara was the LTR type until she got burned by some unfaithful men, including Andy, which then shifted her worldview and stance on relationships. After all, if you don't allow yourself to get too close to anyone, you can't really be hurt.

Whatever her true motivation is, at least she's being 100% honest with Peter, here. Thing is, she just said that Peter is 'enough man for her' and I don't think Peter was about to go down on one knee and by a house in the suburbs. In my view, they were exclusive, but didn't have any actual long-term plans of the settling down type, which seems to me like pretty much every relationship I've seen at the college/uni level.

Perhaps Peter's loyalty frightens her or she doesn't expect it to last. Perhaps she never was into LTR at all. Whatever it is, it sure doesn't seem to sit well with ol' Slugger.

Jeffko, May 23rd, 2013, 8:09 am

Oh crap...
Just thought of something. Perhaps Kara realized that Michelle has feelings for Peter and that they would be a better match for each other, so she's subtly backing out of their relationship so that they end up together.

Perhaps I'm reading way too much into this, but I can't help it lol!

Tarabba, May 23rd, 2013, 9:53 am

Uh yeah, guys Kara not Tara! You're starting to give me a complex :P

Well, Peter doesn't look happy, but at this point Kara doesn't want a long-term relationship, and I had thought this much was evident to Peter--not being in a long-term relationship doesn't necessarily mean that it's an unfaithful one.

SAECore (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 10:22 am

@Kantrip: Honestly you're right. At first reading it put a harsh vibe into me because Peter is such a good guy. But I realized, mostly from your comment, that Tara has her own independent wishes about this relationship. It may still suck for Peter, but at least she's not playing a game. I can respect that, where earlier i just wanted to be Sympathetic to only Peter

Kantrip (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 10:32 am

@SAEcore Yeah that was a typo. Kara not Tara. Whoops. And while I try not to project a lot of my own memories and life experiences into this webcomic (it's really hard not to at times), this is one lesson it has taken over 20 years to learn. Brutal honest tactful truth in a relationship hurts at that moment but down the line saves a lot of resentment. Now the question is if Peter can take that honesty for what it is and not get all twisted in his head about it.

Banana Rock (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 11:49 am

I think you might have a point there, Jeffko. Kara seems to me like one of those magical people that canter through your life like a unicorn; here for a while, dazzling in passing, but in memory you see exactly the sorcery they left behind them in their wake. It's only perhaps years later you see it, but it makes those fleeting fairy-friends so damn special.

Still, as much as it obviously just bit deep into Pete's heart, I would always be happier with brute honesty over a cushioned blow... at least you know exactly where you stand instead of piddling about for God knows how long thinking things are one way when they're obviously another.

Oh, and just to fill out my perspective from yesterday, I wasn't really saying it's impossible to be single when you meet someone new, it was more an appeal for introspection from everyone... I mean, the crowd can be a little reactionary at times here. Just an appeal to look inside.

AtypicalGuest (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 12:39 pm

Feelings Can Exist Without Monogamy
I like that Kara understands this sentiment. I think sometimes people get the wrong idea about people that are not into monogamy. Just because you enjoy encounters with different people doesn't mean that you don't emotionally feel love (or some similar emotion) towards one (or more) of them.

I think there is this sort of stigma that sometimes gets tacked onto people who are polyamorous or for those who just don't necessarily have to LOVE someone to enjoy having sex with a person. Mainstream society tells us that if you love someone, they should be enough. It works for some people, but it doesn't for others. I've been in a long-term relationship with my boyfriend for 7 years and we've lived together for almost 2 years and though we have an open relationship, we have a mutual understanding that a great relationship can be had, regardless of what we may do with other people. For those wondering, this was actually not his idea. I'm the one with issues with monogamy.

I think Peter genuinely cares for Kara and I think she also holds him in high regards, but monogamy may just not be her thing. As long as she's honest about the entire situation, then she's cool. It sucks for Peter, since he doesn't see things the same way - but that's something he'll have to figure out. As much as I like to two of these characters together, with their different views of what a relationship should be, I do wonder how things are going to work out.

Plus, the whole Michelle thing is up in the air as well. Wooooooooo. I love this comic so much. <3

Guest, May 23rd, 2013, 1:22 pm

@AtypicalGuest: I've been in open relationships, and polyamorous ones. They work exceptionally well for me, but I married a man who cannot handle that...at all. I think its a matter of what is more important- you, or your partner. For Kara and Peter, probably better they split up now. Some people aren't meant for monogamy, but some people really and truly are. It would break them as a person to have to 'share', as it were. Peter and Kara seem like opposites in this realm.

Luci (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 3:56 pm

Some people seem bound and determined to blame Kara for Andy's bad behavior. After Patrick's description of what happened, I thought that perhaps her dumping him had been the cause until I learned that he had been cheating on Kara while they were together. I think the truth is closer to Andy's assertion that they were never going to be together long term and Kara's stating that they broke up because he cheated her than Patrick's belief that she toyed with him and then threw him away. I'm not sure why she's not interested in a more committed relationship with Peter. Maybe she has come to mistrust men's ability to be monogamous. Maybe she has doubts about Peter's feelings for her. Maybe as she says she's not the settling down type. Regardless, I think it's safe to say at this point that Andy's transgressions/character flaws are his own and not her doing.

Ghostronik (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 4:22 pm

I keep saying it. I keep saying it!

Laemmchenxxl (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 9:12 pm

I have read the last 5 posts in a row, and maybe its the other way around:
She knows, Peter is a bad liar. Young men on a two week tour without girls is tempting, yes. So if "it" happened and she doesnt look him in the eye maybe his denial is good enough.
But he said a sound NO, she looked him in the eye and saw he spoke truth. And after that there is a faint hint of a smile in her face.

I think Peter will have a big night tonight.... "I show you how much i missed you" is exactly what she meant!

jodie (Guest), May 23rd, 2013, 10:30 pm

peter's note:
so what happens now?

cj95 (Guest), May 24th, 2013, 2:47 am

I understand that some people can deal with the whole open relationship thing, but I have to think that if one person isn't into it, then its not going to work.

Peter better get out now before he gets hurt. Its not "all right" to screw around in his opinion so its best to not be with a girl for whom it is "all right".

This isn't to make judgements on Kara or anyone, but each has a right to define what works or what does not in their relationship.

portmaneau, May 24th, 2013, 11:01 am

@TCGC: Hot damn, my bad. I typed "Tara" because I forgot her name and looked up at some comments to make sure. But that didn't click together either, and I submitted the comment anyway.

Harmonik (Guest), May 25th, 2013, 9:38 am

Perhaps especially from the last story arc, i am hesitant to pass judgement.
I see her not making a commitment, not breaking up. Hell, I know a couple of friends who have been dating and living together for about 4 years now. They never made long term plans, but they also never gave each other a reason to leave.
Not wanting to settle doesn't mean she is unfaithful, wants an open relationship, or even that she doesn't care for Peter ... hell, she just might be gun shy from her past. it happens.
At the same time, some guys have an old school mindset, and think they have to hike their leg and pi.. err, I mean put a ring on a girls finger before they can be 'together'.
I feel bad for the guy.
Turning off that ideology is a hard thing, but he might have to if he wants to stay with her.

RJ (Guest), May 25th, 2013, 9:42 am

I can't blame Peter for having unhappy thoughts. its about more than having a good time to him, and he wants to be more than just passing entertainment and he certainly holds Kara in higher regard than that. To find she thinks so little of him in return is going to be disturbing. I wouldn't be surprised if the evening doesn't go as Kara plans. Pete is a stand up guy, and I don't think "I'll enjoy the ride until she dumps me or I find some other attractive interest" is going to work for him.

Onyxlight, May 28th, 2013, 5:43 am

Hugs Peter
That look in the last panel... it says a lot.

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