Phew, think it's finally over... Now to wait and see if something else breaks them up, or if this fight was what Peter meant when he said "There was a time, doesn't seem that long ago, I didn't think I would ever see Sam and Lauren together again." The wording doesn't explicitly state that they break up after all, just that they were away from each other for an unspecified amount of time.
"The subtle pass given to misandry" … "I'm not a misogynist nor regressive".
Recognition of, challenging of, male privilege is in no way at all "misandrist", a word that really has no use or function other than as a useful marker for anyone who uses it. There's nothing wrong in itself in being a person with an unearned privilege (I hope not; I've pretty much got the full set); refusing to recognise that you have it, and interpreting any attempt to point it out as an attack on you *is* a problem.
Elephant In The Room: Lauren also needs to work on her people skills. Unless she figures some stuff out as well, they'll be back here again. Perhaps some off-screen friend of Rick's could also take him aside and explain how to interact with other men to him.
@outersquid: I wanted to address your views on misogyny/misandry, as your comments caused my eyebrows to rise, but a webcomic's comment section is not the proper forum for this. If you wish to discuss this further, we could exchange e-mails.
Oh look! A Comic!
Gee, how great it is to be able to enjoy this excellent and well-written piece of narrative adventure. Why, it's almost as if this were a free and open source of entertainment, with the ability to simply read the comic and not be obligated to view or respond to comments made about it! It's almost as if, miraculously, I can simply IGNORE the people who may or may not be sharing views that I find undesirable, be it of the comic or people commenting themselves. Almost as though i had the CHOICE to do so, like I had some sort of FREE WILL or something. Amazing, isn't it? Who would have thought you could enjoy something on the internet without having to immerse yourself in the refuse that gathers at its heels.
*phew* Well, I think that's my sarcasm quota for the year. Excellent comic Twist, every step is a wonderful experience, whatever anybody may say to the opposite.
Giving my kudos for this comic series. I find it very thoughtful and emotionally present. Life is messy and people say and simultaneously communicate a mix of things to each other. Feels real, man. Good job!
Agreed on the misandry bit- I'm so sick of having the "man hater" label thrown at feminists. It's utter crap, and only serves as a way for the ignorant to find each other. Privilege is a thing, whether it be white, Judeo-Christian, class-based, able-bodied, male, or other. They should really start teaching this stuff in school or something. :p
On a more relevant note, thank God for this page. Couples don't stop fighting when one of them "wins", but when both of their defenses crumble and all they have left to show is what's in their hearts. Next page better include a damn hug, they obviously both need one.
There's a song from a band called Iris I like called Nobody Wins. Its a song about how relationship fights ultimately net no one a "win".
The line of the song that played through my head as I read this comic was:
"Still fighting this war,
Still all of this for Helen.
But love is a face nobody can win.
It's nobody's loss if nobody wins.
(So no body win one)
There's no one to want, there's no one to miss.
(It's all or no one)."
~ Iris "Nobody Wins"
I highly recommend looking up the full song as it was my soundtrack for re-reading this whole exchange between Lauren and Sam.
Ah the ups and downs of love. My current girlfriend have been through a lot of these kind of conversations and it is actually kind of nice to see both sides of the argument portrayed as they are.
As far as unfortunate comments in heated moments go, we all have them. Damn C.D.C. really needs to work on that foot-in-mouth vaccine. Until then I hope we can just recognize that wether or not we have earned or deserve it, there are those of us with privilege over others. All we can hope to do is recognize these inequalities and use what privilege we do have to try and take care of what we can without starting any crusades. (no offense King Richard)
@Shawn: I do love the character development as well. Too many comics, and regular novels for that matter, have been lacking in character growth (or regression). I find a story so much more satisfying to read when the characters are so real and fluid within their own nature.
@Gibson Twist: This novel has been amazing from start to where we currently are at. Keep up this amazing job, I love to read it everyday. I really hope you are able to finish it and get all of these into book form, I would love to buy the full story.
And above all else Sam, I want you to remember in this heartfelt moment that I again made this about you without addressing any of my issues or involvement in the matter. I goaded you until you popped, and I feel justified for doing so, now that you told me the 'truth'. I again made you feel like shit instead of showing any signs that I have changed.
I clearly saw what was going on, but it doesn't matter since you were not completely honest with me from the start. I take no responsibility for what happened, and if I hit you, its only because I love you, and I'm passionate about it. You wont even ask me if I'll do it again. We both know I can and will, just don't give me a reason. I certainly wont promise not too.
You are not the perfect man I expect you too be, so get used to me holding that against you.
... oh wait, she didn't say that.
OK, maybe I'm a bit jaded. ;-)
This would be..
a perfect time for both of them to take inventory of the relationship, and figure out *together* what course it should take, if any. The air is cleared enough to engage in a serious heart to heart that will go a long way to healing both of them. The technical term for this, by the way, is "companionship inventory". It is a great tool to ensure that both partners are on the same page, have the same relationship goals, and the desire and tenacity to cling to the fight for their relationship with every ounce of will they possess. I hope they take the time to seriously share ALL the feelings that haven't had a voice yet.
Am I the only one here that thinks she contributed to this? Granted Sam acted like a dick. But Rick did everything possible to treat him like crap up to and including practically denying he existed when he was standing right there. And she did nothing but say it was Sam's fault for doubting her.
I have never done anything like Sam did or reacted to that crap like Sam did. But I've been in my share of clapped out relationships and have seen that exact behavior and when I did go ahead and trust the other person found out soon enough I'd had the panties pulled over my eyes.
Yes, Sam was a dick. But she's not owning up to her own dickishness and Sam's not calling her on it. Sam is being honest here. She is not.