7.02 Gone Without Goodbye 9

May 10th, 2017, 12:01 am


Author Comments:

Gibson Twist, March 4th, 2017, 10:55 pm


It's whatever island you need it to be.

User Comments:

Kotire, May 10th, 2017, 12:04 am

Island eh...
I can only think of 2 islands that it could be based off of. But only one that is referred to as The Island.

NikitaCougar, May 10th, 2017, 12:38 am


I'm kinda surprised by Mulligan, in a good way.

Maritza (Guest), May 10th, 2017, 2:26 am


Ugh, freaking Mulligan. As if he had at any point in Wiley's life treated him with respect.

Even his last interaction was to punch him in the face and threatening to kill him.

Maybe he knows his dumb mushrooms pushed Wiley over the edge.

Leesil11, May 10th, 2017, 8:44 am

Mulligan
@maritza,

In Mulligan's defense, he isn't a great person, in fact, many might describe him as an ass, but it's not like he gave Wiley any special negative treatment (maybe my memory is skewed, forgive me if I am wrong). I'm not defending how he acts, but I've known people kind of like him, and honestly, the fact that they even take the time to remember you or interact with you is their own level of respect. He cared in his own way, as cliche as that is, and he was definitely hit hard by his suicide. People are complex and freaking weird creatures. The way we interact with others is not always straightforward. Not calling him a great person, but he definitely cared about Wiley.
As for the mushrooms pushing Wiley over the edge, I doubt that. It certainly didn't help it seems, but things like the symptoms Wiley showed can show up over time and are often repressed for years without seeking help by those who feel like they have no support network or like what they are going through is taboo. Between being disowned by his family, the social anxieties of being gay, and the mental health issues he clearly had, it was a recipe for disaster of some kind. Avoidable if you have a good network of care and people around you that are equipped to help, but he had none of that. As much as Michelle loved him and looked out for him, she just didn't have the tools needed to help him. The levels of care for mental health patients we see now (at least in the US, I don't know about Canada) are relatively recent.

man in black, May 10th, 2017, 6:51 pm


Hopefully Bermuda, then can get lost in the triangle

Wusel (Guest), May 11th, 2017, 7:46 pm


@ Leesil11,

I really like your comment. It is well written and not emotionally loaded. You keep a somewhat objective view when it is easy to be swept away by the emotions of the recent storydevelopments. You seem to have some insight to mental workings and I thank you for sharing it with the rest of us.

As to Mulligans idea: I really like it. I'm not sure if that is "what Wiley would have wanted", but it seems to be what the rest of the group needs right now. And I think funerals and such are really for the living to help cope with the loss, the dead wont know either way.

Maritza (Guest), May 12th, 2017, 5:07 am


"it's not like he gave Wiley any special negative treatment (maybe my memory is skewed, forgive me if I am wrong)."

In his own words: "I don't have to be nice to this weiner anymore. I can't believe I ever was."

Mulligan is an ass. He's always been an ass. He treats people poorly, undeservedly so. Like Lauren, for example. Or Vivian. It's not like he's evil, just mean and inconsiderate.

"As for the mushrooms pushing Wiley over the edge, I doubt that."

This might be speculation on my part. But it's well known that hallucinogenic drugs can turn a disposition to schizophrenia and turn it into a full-blown psychosis. I mean, Wiley evidently had mental problems before that, notably, his paranoia and dark thoughts, but he was more or less functional. He simply never went back to that again after that first trip. (Notably, he skipped on the LSD earlier, during the tour). It happened to Brian Wilson, the singer of the Beach Boys. He consumed LSD once, and he started hearing voices, and then the voices never went away.

Leesil11, May 12th, 2017, 8:16 am

@Maritza
You raise excellent points. And I completely agree, Mulligan is definitely not a considerate or nice individual. As I mentioned, the mushrooms definitely didn't seem to help things at all.
All in all, it's a work of fiction with roots in reality. Short of Mr. Twist giving us an in-depth report on the actual events and how they tie into the comic, we'll never know the truth of things beyond what we see and draw from it.
Thanks for the back-and-forth anyway. Good to see the comments section is again becoming a place for civil discourse.

Leesil11, May 12th, 2017, 8:23 am

@ Wusel
Thanks, it's my own two cents from personal experience. It's tough for everyone with these things. The hardest thing to realize sometimes is that as much as you want to, you can't help someone because you simply don't have the needed skills and tools.

Gibson Twist, May 12th, 2017, 1:02 pm


The only comments I think I could make here are that sometimes shocking events can spark refelctive moments and we don't always like what we see, and a single good deed doesn't make anyone a good person any more than a single bad deed makes someone a bad person. I don't know if that crystalizes one way or the other, and maybe it shouldn't. An in-depth report on the real events that inspired this might be more confusing than clarifying because this is a mash of a lot of different things as well as a healthy amount of fiction, and we were all assholes some of the time.

Leesil11, May 15th, 2017, 8:11 am


Well said Mr. Twist. Indeed, I think the words "we were all assholes some of the time" could pretty much be the motto of many a group of friends.

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