Devon's response is really pretty typical for an abuser. They're really nothing but overgrown bullies who cry and whimper when they get a taste of their own medicine. Again, I speak from my own personal experience with my ex.
So my question is: What's next for Melanie? While I'm sensing a hookup with Smilin' Andy in the near future, I just hope the whole group doesn't come to regret it...and that it doesn't come between Andy and Patrick.
WELL this few comics have been fantastic!
Peters intensity actually scares me there, its incredible to see the normally calm character snap in such a violent way. Obviously its justified, but it really shows the effect of his loyalty to his friends!
Anyone remember Begbie from Trainspotting? He was a psycho and everyone feared him. But they also liked it when he beat other people for them. We'll see how Peter's friends react after they see what their encouragement of his violent ways has produced.
*joins the standing ovation*
Nah.. Peter didnt kill him ...right.?
I also wonder how Melanie is gonna react to this... I mean its really hard to break an abuser cycle and she very well might see this whole thing as her fault.. -sigh-
Great page as usual,love Peter's dialog, and how typical and sad Devon's response is, abusers are only powerful in front of their victims.. they never confront other people with violence..
Ex. A- Devon.
I've really enjoyed this comic so far, and I understand Peter's response. But it seems a little out of character. I mean, yeah, he's the slugger. But he never came off as this brutal. I can see and kind of expected him coming after Devon. This just seems like a bit much. I'm probably the only one who thinks so. And it's not a knock against the comic. I love it so far, even this page. I just find it surprising.
Brutal isn't as much of a factor as the realization that this has gone on. Then being very angry that you didn't prevent this before. I can feel for slugger here, I felt about the same when I found out a situation. The end resulted with me going to the hospital with a dislocated knuckle or two. Not my brightest moment.
I'm a new commenter and i have been following this comic for the last few weeks after stumbling upon it from another comic. I have to say as much as I wwas excited to see peter bursting through the door, after monday's comic i felt the pit of my stomache fall deeper and deeper... although he was total assbucket, the level of violence Peter showed was incredibly frightening... I went from feeling excited to sorry to frightened.
However, this is just how incredibly real you make this comic seem Mr. Twist. Incredibly incredibly well done and well written... and i love the tingly feeling in my spine I may be a new reader but I'm definitely sticking around till the end ^^
I think we are supposed to feel excited at first, because of the adrenaline rush. However, once we realize how grave the situation is, we feel both anger towards devon and shock at our boy slugger for what he feels he has to do.
I think the arc is brilliantly done, and in a way elevates slugger to a super hero, for doing something most people don't have the stomach for or simply physically can't achieve. i.e. the batman comment someone posted earlier.
I don't regret Peter beating the fire out of of Devon one itty bitty bit. I'm glad he controlled himself, but he made his point absolutley clear to Devon. If you have never been abused by a man, or woman, tough tooties.
Peter let himself and his intentions be known, and I applaud him for it.
Rabbit punch or no, Devon NOW has no recovocations what Peter means.
@ last hit
slugger was holding him by the head with his left hand, donkey punched with his right hand.
PS= I've always wanted to give an ultimatum like that to half the douchbags I come across. Plus it was only six direct hits all together. that's not bad in terms of a beating. (I'm not counting getting hit through the door, or the shove into a wall. those don't really hurt, just set up.)
Woo man that was so well written. Went through about seven hundred emotions just in that strip alone. Awesomely done.
Someone earlier asked why Devon didn't try to fight back. It is possible that a) he's crap at fighting and b) he's utterly and completely terrified and all his muscles have seized up. The fact he's just whimpering and sobbing a little kinda supports the latter. His brain stalled.
See, my fear is that Devon will indeed seek another target. He hates the whole gang and would probably target one of the weaker members, because that's the guy he is, eh? So..he's homophobic too, yes? Who do we know who's gay and we have been hinted in the beginning things will end badly for?
this is a comment!
well firt of all : thank you for all your hard work mr. twist! your comic is amazing!
so i´ve been folowing this comic for about a year now maybe even longer and i barely comment because most of the times ive got the feeling that everything is already said.
but this time i feel that something terribly wrong happend that needs my comment.
PETER JUST BEAT UP SOMEONE IN THE MOST TERRIFIC WAY! Most violent! most brute!
regardless of what an asshole devon might be, and god knows he deserved some kind of reaction, VIOLENCE CAN NEVER BE JUSTIFIED!
violence always brings more violence, i would state that as a fact! the only exception is self defense and what peter did is not self defense it is revenge! dont get me wrong if a third person protects you from someone who beats you up it is still self defense but going to the home of someone who hit someone else and beat him up is not self defense anymore!
They should have calmed down and get the cops! the would have dealed with the situation nice and smoothly (maybe)! devon would get into jail and melanie and the group could have lived happily ever after! i am exaggerating right now but once again : violence is wrong regardless of whom uses it ! this includes peter!
I hope some of the people who hailed for peter beating up devon think about it one more time and start to overthink the situation once again and realize what is going on!
Normally I never comment, but I have to say that those that are squeamish about this violence are feeble minded. To say that violence is never justified is just plain willful ignorance. Would you let a man beat a child just because it wasn't directed at you? To make exceptions ivalidate your own rule. The police are woefully inadequate ate dealing with domestic disputes. The ethical action is to protect the ones you care about. Violence doesn't create more violence; that's retarded. Violence is like any force, it's neutral. Calling violence evil for its own sake is like calling gravity evil just because you fell and hurt yourself. What slugger did wasn't vengeance it was justice there is a difference. Vengeance dwells in the past justice prevents further wrongs. Tell me this won't prevent this further wrong.
I doubt people would let a man beat a child if they saw it. However, that is not to say every person here would go and beat the daylight of the man either--hopefully, they would remove the child from the situation, having called the police. I, for one, would not be able to settle the matter through violence, simply because I am not strong enough. Violence is only neutral when delivered through a neutral party, of which Peter is not. This is why we have the police--which is neutral party to disputes. As for this 'preventing further wrongs', there could be a chance that at the next Devon/Melanie meeting where (if) she does go back to him and he does beat her again, he could kill her this time if only for his anger over what Peter did. As for calling the police inadequate, this is inaccurate. Police do not have the power to settle domestic disputes. If there was proper education provided to both sides and government programs devoted preventing and dealing with domestic issues, then perhaps there would be an end.
@ lurch: my first impression when i read your comment was "what an idiot, what a twisted morale" but when i read my comment again and thaught about yours once again i proved myself wrong!
dont get me wrong i still will never accept violence and i still think it will never be justified but the point of yours that i throw out dogmatic theses and make exceptions from it is really able to be critized. (sorry for my bad english)
so i thought about it one more time and came to teh conclusion that self defense is also violence but one that is necessary some times. the antagonism in this simple phrase is one that i had overlooked in my previos comment! i dont know how to solve this problem because i could create a million themes where i have to defend myself or the ones i love only with violence. i dont think there will ever be a solution to this ethic discourse.
but i do think that you are wrong in with your statement that violence is neutral. violence cannot be neutral ( at least in my oppinion) if you are violent against someone you mat the decision on which side you stand! therefore it can never be neutral! also further violence will never prevent further violence! keeping terrorists in guantanamo prison wont prevent them frm hating america (for what ever reasons thats not the point) so violence is merely a symptom of a even deeper problem.
i dont now if i made my point clear but if you like so we could discuss this topic elsewhere. you could sign in on smackjeeves and send me a ppm so we could mail each other or meet at a forum or even something else!
@ those debating violence: Garrison said, "Let's convince them that slavery is wrong by using moral suasion." A few years later, John Brown said,"Meh...that ain't working. Let's try it my way." End result: Both ways suck -- so Peter is left with deciding which will get him closer to the desired outcome. i.e., the opportunity to use the line ..."will seem like a fond memory." :-)
one more point
Just because you say you would call the police doesn't mean that you are not using violence. What do you think the police will use? The use of violence through a surrogate is still the use of violence. Just because you didn't commit it yourself doesn't mean you aren't responsible.
Many of you have way to high of an opinion of how effective police are, my experiences show me that when it comes down to it they have priorities and if they're busy or no ones in the area well you might as well **** yourself because they arent getting there in any time to help. Violence is definitely not something to be thrown about casually but for many people they live their lives the way they do because they KNOW they don't have to fear physical harm. What Peter's doing is pretty damn over the top, and I wouldn't condone it, but i can understand it. 1 year community service and 3 months in juvie for breaking a kids face so bad he had to have facial reconstructive surgery, but he was also trying to rape my friend. Too much? Yes, but some people are passionate and willing to break some boundaries for the people that mean most to them. Anyways, end rant, this comic is amazing and I'd never thought I'd post but this hit pretty close to home so I figured i'd offer my two cents
coming back for more
I am proud to say that I just discovered this gem of a story you have here within the past 48 hours. I caught up with the current page at about 3 am last night.
All I can say is awesome work man.
And no tears for Devon from me, though I wonder if he might seek retribution through Patrick. He could totally ruin Pat's life by "outing" him to his dad as vengeance (pointed out by Pointless earlier in the thread).
I Concur With Lurch...
That's really about all I can say. I feel like those speaking out about the violence are those fortunate enough to never have experienced it themselves. I also have to agree with expendable; the police everywhere I've lived have been unwilling and unable to help in these situations, so calling them was pointless.
Violence can stop further violence. I can use an example from my own life that I posted a few pages back; my ex stopped beating up on me when I fought back once. He never raised his hand at me again, because after that, he knew I would continue to fight back.
As I've stated before, never again another battered woman. Way to go Slugger.
I've skimmed through these comments and I can't see anyone who mentioned anything about the fact that Devon's face was scratched BEFORE Peter started messing him up. Anyone else notice that? Maybe covered later in this book... I read on.
I've read a lot of webcomics over the years, yes, the majority mainly nothing but comedy never touching on true dramatics, reading your story is like delving into a novel of epic proportions. My respect for your artistic skill is boundless...